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Sai Pearls of Wisdom - 10
January 15, 2003
Professor Anil Kumar has presented this talk as an extra satsang.
He has selected important messages Baba has imparted to the
students gathered around Him during the afternoon sessions on the
verandah at Prashanti Nilayam. These talks will continue.
ANIL KUMAR'S SATSANG:
BABA'S CONVERSATIONS WITH STUDENTS
“Sai Pearls Of Wisdom”
Part Ten
January 15th, 2003
OM… OM… OM…
Sai Ram
With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of
Bhagavan,
Dear Brothers and Sisters!
JANUARY 12th, 2003
The latest conversation we had with Bhagavan was on the 12th of
January 2003. It will be quite interesting as it is the latest;
then later we will go to the sessions held before January 12th.
Certain comments made by Bhagavan are of general interest, and
serve as a message and a guideline for all of us. So I thought of
sharing them with you.
“You Should Not Depend On Others”
The first thing He said was: Whether it is the Sports Meet or
anything else, one should not depend on others. We should not hire
anything from anyone. We should not employ people from anywhere.
We should not deploy any agency for this purpose. You should be
self-dependent and self-reliant. This is what He called swasakthi,
which means self-reliance or self-dependence. This is a beautiful
message for all of us that will help us to stand on our own feet,
and not depend on our neighbours.
This made me ask a question, “Swami, is it possible to be
self-reliant throughout life? Is it wrong to seek help from an
external agency? Why not?”
Then Swami answered, “Even if some other man comes and tries to
help you, it is only the spirit within you that should respond,
not anything else. The external agency would act as a stimulus,
and the real spirit within you should respond to that stimulus.”
What a wonderful reply! Now I understand that all the people with
whom I mingle and associate are there only to help build my
spirit. When we are out of sorts, or in a mood, others may say a
few words to offer solace and support, but ultimately the spirit
has to be built within us. In other words, as a matter of course,
the external agencies kindle your spirit from within. This is the
first point made by Swami.
Two are Required: Energy and Ability
The second point: Two elements are essential for everyone. I may
remind you, all these points were made as a follow-up to the
Sports Meet. We had the Sports Meet on the 11th and 12th and then
Swami talked about these points, which means that Sports Meet was
only an excuse or opportunity to convey the Divine message to
everyone. It is in this context that I share His comments with
you.
Now, He said that two elements are required for everybody: First
is sakthi, which means energy, and the second is saamardhyam,
which means ability. Energy and ability are essential for every
individual.
Then I said, “Bhagavan, I have been under the impression that
sakthi and saamardhyam are one and the same. Can’t I have one of
the two and still get along? Is it essential that I have both?”
Then Bhagavan gave an example. Pointing toward the table He said,
“To lift the table you need sakthi, energy. You also need the
ability to carry the table. How do you carry it? You need the
technique and the skill to carry it. That skill and technique is
saamardhyam, ability, while the needed energy is sakthi.”
“Swami, You have given us a wonderful clarification. I have been
under the impression that they were synonymous and that we could
get along with one and not need the other. Very good! Now I
understand that one is a corollary to the other -- one is
complementary to the other. I'm so glad.”
In addition, Bhagavan explained further about saamardhyam or
ability, technique, skill. He gave another example. Kalam means
pen. Kavvam is a device used to churn butter. You churn the curd
with the kavvam, the churner or churning rod.
Swami is a poet of poets. He brought these two words together in a
poetical way. “Kalam, a pen, is used to write. Kavvam, a churning
rod, is used to churn the curd. You cannot use the churning rod to
write. You cannot use the pen to churn the curd -- this is
ability, this is the skill.”
That is how He explained the words, sakthi and saamardhyam, energy
and the ability.
“Where Does Divinity Come In?”
“Swami, I want to know -- if I have energy and ability, where does
Divinity come into the picture? Where is God’s place? Isn’t it
enough to have ability and skill?”
So what was God’s answer?
Swami’s response was, “Okay. Where you have sown the seed in the
soil, the seed grows and germinates. How can it germinate without
the soil? The soil is the Divinity which helps the seed to
germinate.”
“Oh Swami, I understand. But now I want to know in reference to
energy and ability. Please explain to me. The seed is only one.
But I mentioned two, sakthi and saamardhyam, so please explain
with reference to that.”
He was in a good mood. Immediately He said, “You see, here is the
seed that grows into a tree. What is it that joins both? Water.
Water is the link between the roots in the soil and the shoot
above the ground. Similarly, between energy, sakthi, and ability,
saamardhyam, the link of water is Divinity. Divinity is the
connection.”
You understand me? How nicely He said it. Unless there is water,
you can't expect the seed to germinate. And the same water goes
into the tree also. So water is the link between the two, the root
and the shoot. The same thing applies to ability and energy.
Really, very good!
“Your Weakness Makes You Feel That Way”
Then I asked another question, “Swami, somehow I feel that I
cannot be at my best without another’s help. You want me to be
self-reliant. But somehow I feel within that I cannot get along
well without somebody’s help.”
Immediately came His vehement answer, in clear-cut terms: “It is
your weakness that makes you feel that way. Your weakness only
makes you feel that you need somebody’s help. In fact, with your
power, your ability and your energy, you can manage anything on
your own. The feeling that you cannot manage by yourself and need
to seek another’s help is more or less a reflection and a sign of
your own weakness.”
This is a clue for all of us to rely on God and not to depend on
others, which is a clear-cut sign of weakness. Is that clear?
Please see the beauty of His explanation.
Enthusiasm And Encouragement
I did not want to leave it at that point, so I said, “Swami, at
least I might need somebody to encourage me. If I don’t expect
anything from anyone, at least I need somebody to encourage me --
to say a few words of encouragement. Why not?”
Then He said, “No, no, no, no!”
He used two words: utsaaham, meaning enthusiasm, and prothasaham,
meaning encouragement and He said, “All right, others may
encourage you, but the spirit of encouragement is born within you.
They’re not pushing or putting encouragement into your mouth. You
encourage yourself by their words.”
So, encouragement is not like a tablet to be swallowed.
Encouragement is not like an injection given to you. Ultimately
enthusiasm has to be born and find its place from within, not from
outside. This enthusiasm, the encouragement that you feel, should
come from within and not from an external or outer agency. That is
what Swami said.
“Did You See Anil Kumar Yesterday?”
Then He commented to another person who was sitting there, “Did
you see Anil Kumar in his suit and necktie yesterday, on the stage
during the Sports Meet?
The fellow said, “Yes, Swami. He looked very nice.”
Then another gentleman, the Warden of Brindavan Hostel, said,
“Swami, I told Anil Kumar to his face, ‘You look like a sportsman
with your dark blue jacket, white pants and tie’. He looked very
nice.”
So I said, “Swami, if I am not majestic in my appearance here,
where else can I be? (Laughter) If I am not fully dignified here,
where else can I be? At home, at most only the people on the
street may see me, but here I'm watched by thousands and thousands
of people, both from India and abroad. Why not? Therefore, I like
to present myself in the best possible way because I am by the
side of God. Why not?”
Then He said, “Hmm. (Laughter) What more do you have to say?”
Pomp and Dignity
There is a word, darja, which means ‘with all pomp and show’ and a
second word, theevi, which means ‘with all dignity.’
Then I said, “Swami, with this darja and theevi, with this pomp
and dignity, if I cannot be like that here, where else can I be
like that?”
Swami was watching me keenly. Then I thought it was time to just
take a chance and try to make it a little lighter. So I said,
“Swami, what is the difference between darja, pomp and show, and
theevi, dignity? What is the difference? Are they one and the
same?”
Then Bhagavan said, “What is darja outside is reflected as theevi
inside. The pomp and show is outside, while the dignity is inside.
It shows up like that. All that is seen outside is darja and what
is then projected onto the TV, television, is theevi. The theevi
is the TV.”
Do you understand the beautiful pun with these little words?
Therefore, the theevi or dignity is like TV, while darja or pomp
and show are the scene shot from the outside.
“Wonderful, Swami. Very nice, very nice. I'm so happy.”
“He’s Your Product”
Then He called the Principal of Brindavan College, the youngest
principal of the campuses, a former student of Swami’s university.
He asked me, “How is he?”
I said, “Swami, he’s a gem of a boy.”
Then He asked, “How do you know?”
“For the simple reason that he is Your product. I came here when I
was 45. I came to You at 45, half-spoiled, whereas this boy is
Your product, 100 percent pure.”
“Hmm, good.”
“You Are Beyond Age”
Then Swami said, “How about Me?”
“Swami, You have no age. I came here at the age of 45, while this
boy came to You at a young age. You want me to tell You how old
You are? You have no age. You are beyond age.”
Then our good God gave me a beautiful smile and said, “How do you
know?” (Laughter)
Then I said, “Swami, I know many people who have told me, ‘Swami
has performed my marriage,’ ‘Swami has performed my son’s
marriage,’ ‘Swami has named my great-grandson.’ We are all getting
older, but Swami is so young. So You are beyond age.”
“It’s okay, okay.”
“I Have No Worries”
But then He made a remark that is very important: “If you are also
like Me, you can be beyond time.”
“Swami, like You? What do You mean by that?”
He said, “I have no worries, chinthalu. I have no thoughts,
nothing. I have no worries, chinthalu. If you have no chinthalu or
worries, you can also be young like Me.”
“Swami, why do people become old?”
“Worries will make you look aged. Worries are responsible for old
age. If you have no worries, you can look like Me.”
How wonderful would it be if we were also free from worries. The
more we want to be free from worries, the more we get worried. Let
the sleeping dogs lie so we don’t have to wake them up!
“PrasHanti Nilayam is Paradise”
And then there was a special mention. Some gentleman said, “Swami,
January 14th happens to be Vaikuntha Ekadasi. Not only does
Vaikuntha Ekadasi fall on that day, but Sankranthi as well.”
Vaikuntha Ekadasi is a celebration, an occasion to offer worship
to all the deities at the same time. God is one; deities are many
-- agreed? There is a difference between God and a deity --
agreed? Lakshmi is a deity. Saraswathi is a deity. Durga is a
deity. Kali, Durga - these are all deities; but the Divinity is
one and the same. Is that clear? So Vaikuntha Ekadasi is an
occasion when we pay our obeisance to all the deities on the same
day. Vaikuntha means heaven.
Then I said, “Swami, if that is so, this Prashanti Nilayam is
Vaikuntha, paradise. This is that very heaven.”
He asked, “How do you know?”
“I know because, as long as I'm here, I'm not worried,” I said.
“The moment I go out, worries chase me and haunt me. The worriless
state, the thoughtless state, is paradise. I experience that very
heaven here. So this is paradise.”
Ideal and Command
And then I said, “Swami, what an ideal You have set before us. The
ideal that we too should be free from thoughts and worries -- what
an adarsam, ideal, You are.”
Then Bhagavan said, “It is not simple adarsam. It is My aadesam,
My command to you.”
Aadesam is command, while adarsam is ideal.
This drives home a point that Swami, the ideal or adarsam, has
aadesam, His command, behind it as an example for us to follow and
emulate.
Finally Swami said, “That’s why I say to you that My life is My
message.”
His life is ideal, adarsam. His message is the command, aadesam.
Self-Satisfaction
“Swami, somehow we get satisfaction -- call it psychological -- by
doing things that are appreciated by others. When I do something
that wins the admiration or appreciation of everybody, I have
satisfaction, right? Is this samthrupthi, satisfaction?”
Swami said, “Atma Samthrupthi or Self-satisfaction is more
important than the appreciation by others. Atma Samthrupthi,
Self-satisfaction, is more important than the admiration or
applause by any quarter from outside.”
With that, the 12th January 2003 conversation ended. Now we can go
back to the earlier dates like we‘ve been doing all along.
Globalisation and the Standard of Living
As usual that day, after the interviews in the evening He came out
slowly, walking majestically, adjusting His hair in a beautiful
style that is unique and inimitable. He sat there nicely and
started speaking to us.
He just asked, “You had a meeting at the college today?”
“Yes, Swami. We had a meeting this morning.”
“What was the topic?”
“Swami, an expert spoke on globalisation.”
“Oh, I see. Why globalisation?”
“Swami, globalisation is very necessary to improve our standard of
living.”
Bhagavan said, “You are wrong. The standard of living does not
need to be improved. Therefore, globalisation is not proper. It is
the quality of life, it is the standard of life, which is much
more important than the standard of living.”
Standard Of Living and Danger
Then He used two words. One word that He used was ‘pramana,’ which
means standard. “If you go by the pramana, standard of living, you
will be met with pramaada. Pramaada means danger. If you go by
these standards, you’ll be met with dangers. So, see that you
don’t face any pramaada or danger in life by not following the
pramana or standard of living.” That’s what Bhagavan said.
“Swami, we say, ‘This country is great and that country is rich
because of its affluence, abundance and prosperity.’ Doesn’t that
indicate the per capita income of that country?”
Swami said, “No. What is the national standard of life? The
national standard of life is the integration of the entire organic
world, all beings, animals, plants and natural resources.
Integration of all these together constitutes the national
standards, not simply the externals.”
Then I reflected upon what He had said. Today we have so many
global problems: the greenhouse effect, the ozone holes, the
pollution, etc. All these problems exist because of the lack of
integration of natural resources. We kill the animal world;
therefore, the wildlife is suffering a lot. We kill or uproot all
the big trees; hence, we face an air pollution problem today.
Bhagavan says that integration of all living beings -- plants,
animals and birds -- living together in perfect harmony,
constitutes the standard of a nation, but not just in terms of
economy, comforts, conveniences and luxury. That’s how He built
the subject. These points have been bothering the environmental
biologists and ecologists all over the world.
“Modernity is Limitation”
Then I said, “Swami, if we don’t make use of all these modern
amenities, can I call myself a modern man? I think I am modern,
ultramodern, by making use of all these natural resources. If I
don’t tap these natural resources, how can I be modern?”
Bhagavan said, “No, no, no, no! Modernity is not exploitation.
Modernity is limitation. Modernity is making use of natural
resources in a limited way, without disfiguring them or without
killing them altogether. That’s what modernity is.”
“Swami, all right. Somehow in this modern age, naturally the
standard of living will certainly increase. Yes, in earlier times
we did not make use of toothpaste and a toothbrush. However,
modern man uses toothpaste and a toothbrush. Gas stoves and such
things like heaters weren’t available in earlier times. Today,
people are making use of all these gadgets. Don’t you think so?
So, naturally the standard of living goes up with modernity,
without any special effort.”
We should note this next point.
Baba said, “Modern life, or what you call ‘modernity’, is not the
latest style of living. Modernity lies in putting a ceiling on our
desires. Control of one’s own desires is modernity, not leading a
life of limitless desires.”
What a wonderful definition, which only He could give and which we
can certainly emulate.
“How do We Control Desires?”
“Swami, it is nice to hear from You that we need to control our
desires. Why? How do we do it? Please tell me. When I see that
someone is better off than I am, then I want to be much, much
better than they are. Don’t you think so? How are desires
controlled? I know I have to control them, but how? I don’t know.”
Then Bhagavan answered liberally, with a beautiful example. “Don’t
get worried because the other man has a big building. Be happy
that you have a shelter to live in. Do not get worried that the
other man has a car. Be content that you have kaallu, your legs.
Be happy that you have legs. You don’t need to spend money for
petrol and, when there is a petrol price hike, it won’t bother
you. Because you have God-made tires, kaallu, the legs.”
“Swami, all right. Excuse me for this question. A luxury today may
be a necessity tomorrow. A phone was a luxury; today it is a
necessity. A refrigerator was a luxury, and today it is a
necessity. Swami, what do You say about this?”
As you know, Swami’s word should be the last. He does not budge
even an inch on that. Immediately He said, “Didn’t you get along
without a phone earlier? Didn’t you live at a time when you had no
telephones? Were you not happy in those days without a telephone?
Were you not peaceful without a phone in those days? Why do you
think that you cannot carry on without a phone? This idea is of
your own making. This is one of your own attachments. Why do you
say that? You had less expenditures in those days, and you were
more comfortable.” That’s what He said.
“And actually speaking, you go to five-star hotels, super-star
hotels. Is that necessary? Not necessary. To appease your hunger,
to satiate your hunger, a simple meal is enough. Why the
extravagance? Why the luxury? It is not necessary.”
That’s what Bhagavan said.
“Spiritual Things are Not Desires”
“Swami, all right, I want to see You. I want to talk to You. These
are spiritual feelings. Are these spiritual feelings also desires?
You said, ‘Don’t have desires.’ I want an interview. I want to
have Your darshan. Is that also a desire?”
Let it be very clear. Bhagavan said, “No. (Laughter) All those
feelings that are spiritual are not desires.”
“Why, Swami? Because You are involved, right?” (Laughter)
He said, “No, no, no! Actually, what is a desire? A desire is
something you have developed to procure a thing or an object that
you don’t have, right? You don’t have a car, so you desire to have
a car. You don’t have a building, so you desire to have a
building, right? So, a desire is something that is developed to
possess or acquire what you do not have. Is that clear?”
“But, in spirituality, there is no procurement or acquisition of
anything that you do not already have. It is only experiencing
what you already are and what you already have – Love. Love is not
a desire. You are the embodiment of Love. And peace -- peace is
not a desire. You are the embodiment of peace. Or Truth -- Truth
is not a desire. You are the embodiment of Truth. And God -- God
is not a desire. You are God. So, how can that be a desire?”
Then I thought it wasn’t a good time to continue with this topic.
Suddenly Swami looked at me and asked, “Do you have any desires
now?”
What should I say?
I said, “Swami, I have no desires.”
I thought He might give me a compliment. He didn’t! (Laughter)
“You had a sumptuous lunch with so many sweets and spicy items, so
now you have no desires. (Laughter) You had a sumptuous, delicious
meal - well, I can understand.” That’s what He said.
Mathi, Gathi, Sthithi, Sampathi
Here, in this connection, He used these words - mathi, gathi,
sthithi, and sampathi - which are of interest. The first word is
mathi, which means mind. The second word is gathi, meaning
progress. The third word is sthithi, meaning maintenance, and the
fourth is sampathi, which means attaining the six desirable
qualifications that are your property.
Four words: Mathi is the mind that determines your gathi or goal.
This gathi has to be sustained and maintained. This maintenance is
called sthithi. That is your property, which is called sampathi.
Is that clear?
So, mathi, gathi, sthithi and sampathi are the four words used in
a sequential order by Bhagavan that also have a scientific
significance. As is the mind, mathi, so is your gathi,
destination. As is your gathi, so is the sthithi, maintenance of
your life, which is your real property or sampathi. Do you
understand? That’s what He said in this context.
But in this context He also said, “It is most necessary for all of
you to have an inward inquiry, nivritthi. You’re always outward,
pravritthi. Therefore, you are not able to know the reality of the
Truth.”
That is what Bhagavan said that day.
Then Swami made a beautiful remark, which is very important for
all of us right now.
He said, “If you would just correct yourself at a young age, the
rest of your life is guaranteed: You are bound to be successful if
you are disciplined and correct yourself at a young age. And if
you follow My words, you are bound to be victorious. You are sure
to be triumphant in life.”
And then Swami also made a remark about a devotee.
“That devotee had full faith in Me. He followed My command. Though
he suffered from a kidney problem, when I said, ‘Don’t worry, you
do not need an operation’, he followed My command. And today,
without undergoing any operation, he is quite safe, hale and
healthy. You will also have similar experiences provided you
follow Swami’s command.”
With that, the evening conversation ended.
The Super Specialty Hospital
This was the day when Swami spoke about the Super Specialty
Hospital. He talked about the hospital to a number of doctors from
different places. He talked about how so many people - children,
young and old - have been saved. He talked about how lives have
been saved from total tragedy, and how finances have been used
liberally in Sathya Sai Hospital most successfully. He explained
all this to a team of doctors who had assembled there.
I happened to be there and I said, “Swami, even though we live
right here, we do not know all that is happening in our own
hospital. I didn’t know how You were managing it.”
Swami smiled and said, “To do what is needed is My duty. To ask Me
is your right. You can ask Me. You can demand -- it is your right.
And to give you what you need is My duty.”
And then He told everyone, “In our hospital, many, many boys who
work there are highly qualified. They are doing it out of
devotion, not for any financial gain. They are not doctors, but
still they are highly experienced and know what to do. It is their
love for Swami that made them stay here.”
It was a kind of revelation to many, many people who were gathered
there.
“Only Divinity Is Everywhere “
There was another occasion when Bhagavan made a few remarks, which
I want to share with you.
Bhagavan began by saying that there is only God and nothing else.
There is only Divinity everywhere, nothing else -- all are His own
reflection.
Then I asked a question, “Swami, why don’t I experience that? If
Divinity is everywhere and nothing else, why is it that I do not
experience that?”
Then Swami said, “Your attachment to the body is responsible for
your ignorance and your inability to know your reality.”
Then I said, “Swami, excuse me. This glass and this pen are
lifeless and have no preferences. I have certain preferences. I
love hot, hot pickles. However, You say that everything is Divine.
Then, what is the difference between me and the pen?”
Swami said, “It is the mind. Your mind entertains preferences but
your spirit is choiceless. In fact, either you like this glass or
you do not like this glass. Your likes and dislikes are yours, but
this glass is the same. There is no change in the glass.
Therefore, similarly, the Divinity in each is the same. However,
your likes and dislikes are based on your mind and your attachment
to the body. Without them, the entire universe is Divinity, which
is beyond, without any duality or preferences.”
“Swami, is that all? Then why is it that I don’t like everything?”
Swami said, “There may be some mistakes within you that may not
help you to relish everything.”
Mistakes? Me? (Laughter) “What mistakes, Swami?”
Then He said, “A diabetic patient cannot eat sweets. Just because
a diabetic patient cannot eat sweets does not mean that something
is wrong with sweets. It is a mistake in the body of the diabetic
patient, not a mistake of the sweet. You cannot blame the sweet.
We have to blame the mistake in the diabetic patient. Is that
clear? You are not able to enjoy the gifts of God because of some
mistakes within you. The mistakes within you will hinder your
ability to experience Divinity everywhere.”
“Is that so, Swami? Then, why is there good and bad? Everything is
Divinity, right? Then why do You sometimes say, 'This is good and
that is bad,' ‘Is he a good man or a bad man, a good woman or a
bad woman?’ Why, if everything is Divinity?”
Then Bhagavan said, “There is nothing like good and bad. They
exist together like positive and negative. Good and bad are based
on time. The food that you eat now is good. However, the next
morning, it is bad. So, what is good and what is bad now? Four
hours time is what makes the difference, that’s all.” (Laughter)
“Oh, I see, Swami. I stand corrected.”
“What is the Benefit?”
Then I said to Swami, “What is the benefit of knowing that
everything is Divinity? What is the advantage? If I did not know
that everything was Divinity, what would be the harm? What would
be the loss?”
Then He said, “No. Once you know that everything is Divinity, you
will have that spirit of equanimity or level-headedness. When
there is equanimity, you are blissful. Nothing on earth can shake
you.”
Then Swami gave a beautiful example. “When a child is born, you
laugh and smile. When an old man dies, you cry. At birth, the
child never said, ‘Come on, come on, laugh now!’ The old man never
said, ‘Please cry after I die.’ They did not announce it. It is
only your attachment to them that made you smile and cry, that’s
all. Nothing was demanded. So, something goes wrong when you lack
equanimity or bliss, when you are not aware of consciousness or
Divinity, which is present everywhere.”
“Swami, what is it that makes me separate from God? What is it
that makes me feel separate from God?”
Then He said, “God has uttama guna or noble qualities. You have
chetta or rotten qualities. When you get rid of this chetta, the
rotten qualities, then the latent and inherent uttama or noble
qualities will find a place. Then you will experience the Divinity
within.”
So I understood that it was time to realize my limitations.
Individual Dharma and Community Dharma
“Swami, what is individual Dharma and what is the community
Dharma? Are they one and the same? What is individual Dharma?”
Dharma means code -- code of life, the conduct of life, the
standard of life.
Swami said, “Peace, forbearance, Truth, compassion, sacrifice -
these are the qualities and the components that constitute
individual Dharma or Manava Dharma ---the code of a human being.”
“Then Swami, what is community Dharma? If peace is my Dharma, is
hatred the Dharma of the community? You follow my point? What is
the difference between individual Dharma and society’s Dharma?”
It may look serious, but no one has dealt with these points. We
have gone through a sufficient number of books and heard a number
of important people talk, but these subtleties have not been
explained by anybody in such a lucid, simple, vivid style.
I repeat the question again. This is the weakness of a teacher. I
beg your pardon. (Laughter) “What is the difference between
individual Dharma and the Dharma of society?”
Swami said, “The human values are individual Dharma. The community
or society Dharma is to do for others what you would like done for
your own self. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Everything that is good for you is equally good for others.
Anything that hurts you will equally hurt others. Everything that
makes you happy will make others happy. So, conducting yourself
toward society in the same manner that you would like society to
treat you constitutes society Dharma. Is that clear?”
This is good. However, this is not happening. We find so many
differences among people.
Then I said, “Swami, how nice it is to hear all these things from
You. While we have been sitting all the time and listening to You
talk, most surprisingly I find You standing. Excuse me, Swami,
please be seated.”
He said, “I'm not tired. You may be feeling that this is troubling
Me. It is not any trouble to Me. I like to talk about these
things. I like to teach these things. I like this.”
And Swami said, “Understand your true nature. If you understand
your true Self, automatically you will understand everything else.
Since you do not understand your Self, you misunderstand others.
Since you don’t know your true nature, you will not be able to
know anyone else. That is what is happening today.” That is what
Bhagavan said within that context.
I think we can wind up for today and continue next time. Thank you
very much.
(Anil Kumar closed his satsang by leading the bhajan, “Sai
Narayana, Narayana…”)
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
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