Sai Baba talks to Russian Ladies
Prasanthi Nilayam 25.06.2002
Sai Baba:
What is a meaning of puja?
Lady:
Puja is a worship of God.
Sai Baba:
It is not correct. You have to worship God inside, not outside.
Don't see God as a picture, see the picture as God. See God in
everything.
Do you
have any questions?
Lady:
How to find an answer to the question: "Who am I?"
Sai Baba:
Think like this. We say: "This is my handkerchief." It means that
I am separate from the handkerchief. We say: "This is my body" It
means that I am different from my body. "This is my hand". "This
is my leg". It means that I am not the hand and not the leg. But
who am I? I am the consciousness inside this body. Consciousness
is everything. Consciousness is God. But nowadays too many people
have body consciousness.
God is one but He has many names. Christians call Him Jesus,
Muslims call Him Allah, Hindus call Him Rama, Krishna, Govinda.
But God is only one. When a doctor wants to make a blood test, he
takes some blood from your finger. But the blood is the same in
the shoulder, in the chest, in the leg. You can wear different
types of jewelry - bangles, rings, chains, earrings, but the gold
is one and the same. All of you here have different names and
forms, but all are ladies. Similarly, God is one, path is one,
goal is one. If you want to reach the goal you have to stick to
one path. Some people go to one lady, then go to another lady.
This is not good. There should be one path, one goal.
Now in Russia husband and wife often live separately. They
fight with each other. Husband doesn't want to take care of the
family.
Ladies have two stomachs. One is for food, another is for
baby. In that other stomach often there are some diseases. One man
comes and gives his blood. Another man comes and gives his blood,
and so on. This blood mixes inside and causes problems. Ladies
also take pills to prevent being pregnant. This is another reason
for a disease. This is not good. Control your senses and you will
not fall sick.
Sai Baba:
What do you eat?
Lady:
We eat vegetables.
Sai Baba:
Very good. Vegetables contain all necessary proteins and vitamins.
Vegetables and green stuff are very good. Meat is not good. It is
very harmful. Animals eat impure food. Sometimes they eat dead
bodies. If you eat non-vegetarian food all this poison goes to
your body. Ladies are usually more careful than gents. They eat
only good food. But gents go to the restaurants and eat anything.
They buy different snacks in the bazaars and in the streets. This
food is not good.
Many people nowadays are sick with cancer and TB. But look at
the animals. They don't suffer from cancer and TB. Why? Because
they eat natural, raw food. Their food is not cooked. Human
beings, on the contrary, eat unnatural artificial food.
Lady:
Can we eat fish?
Sai Baba:
Fish is not good. Nowadays the water in the ocean is polluted.
Such countries as Japan and China throw bombs and nuclear waste
into the ocean. Fish is therefore gets poisoned and is not good.
Do not eat fish.
Sai Baba:
It is very important to control your five senses. This is the best
sadhana. Meditation and repetition of Gods Name is not necessary.
If you control your sense organs just for eleven days you will get
Moksha, Mukti, Nirvana, Liberation.
Buddha also did tapas and meditation, visited different
teachers and sages but finally he gave up all these practices. He
understood that five senses are given to us by God and that we
have to control them. He learned to control his senses and in
eleven days he reached Nirvana. Once a very bright, effulgent
Light came down on him from heaven. Ananda, who was sitting next
to Buddha, also saw this light. He understood that Buddha is going
and started crying. Buddha asked him: Ananda, why are you crying?
Don't cry, I am going to God. My life is fulfilled. Thus Buddha
went to God. After some time Ananda also was engulfed in Light and
reached the state of Nirvana.
First of all you should control your tongue, eyes and ears.
Tongue is the most important among the five sense organs. Many
ancient sages observed mauna (period of silence). As a result they
were in the state of bliss. Silence is gold. You should talk less.
Sai Baba
(addressing one of the ladies): What sadhana are you doing?
Lady:
Every morning I meditate on Your Name and Form.
Sai Baba:
Very good. During meditation you should look at the tip of your
nose, like this (demonstrates). If you keep your eyes fully open,
your attention will be easily distracted, this is Raja guna. If
you close your eyes completely, you may fall asleep, this is Tamo
guna. Therefore you have to keep your eyes half-closed, looking at
the tip of your nose. Then you will reach Sattva guna. And you
always have to keep your mind here (points at the area between the
eyebrows, third eye), and not there (points at the chest). Here
is the mind's real place. Here is God.
Lady:
Why do bad omens come true?
Sai Baba:
This is because of your mind. Mind is everything. If you think
that something bad should happen, it happens. If you think of
something good, then good thing happens.
Don't talk evil, talk what is good, Don't hear evil, hear what
is good, Don't see evil, see what is good, Don't do evil, do what
is good, Don't think evil, think what is good.
You are what you think. Yad Bhavam Tat Bhavati (As is the
feeling so is the result). If you think you are a man, you are a
man. If you think you are God, you are God.
What is mind? Mind is just a bundle of desires. Desires are
like luggage in this journey of life. Less luggage more comfort.
Therefore reduce the number of your desires, one by one. Take, for
example, this handkerchief. It is just a piece of cloth made of
threads. If you remove threads one by one, the cloth will
disappear. Similarly, if you remove your desires, the mind will
disappear.
Sometimes you feel envy, jealousy. This is a quality of a
monkey. When you feel jealous, say to yourself: I am not a monkey,
I am a man. The jealousy will go. Anger is a quality of a dog. If
you feel angry, say to yourself: I am not a dog, I am a man. Then
you will be free from anger. Envy, jealousy, hatred, anger - these
are all animal qualities. You have to get rid of animal qualities
and to develop human qualities Lust is like thorns and love is
like a flower, a rose. You have to pluck a flower of love without
touching the thorns and offer it to God.
You have to keep your heart pure. Pure heart means pure death.
This is very important. Body is a water bubble, mind is a mad
monkey. Don't follow the body, don't follow the mind. Follow the
consciousness.
Never think that the work you have to do is your work.
Consider all your work, all your actions to be an offering to God.
Think of God always. Mira used to spend all her time in the
Krishna temple.. Once there came her angry husband and started
shouting at her: What are you doing here?! Go home and do your
household duties! He forbade her to go to the temple. At first,
Mira got very upset. But then she understood that all temples are
built by human beings and that body is the only temple built by
God Himself. She started worshipping Krishna within her heart.
(Swami sings Miras song): O, mind, go to the confluence of Ganga
and Yamuna. The point of confluence of Ganga and Yamuna is here,
in the centre of the forehead. Here is the seat of God. It is not
an ordinary seat. It is His coronation seat.
(To a
lady who is crying): Why are you crying?
Another lady:
She is crying out of love.
Sai Baba:
Love is very easy.
Start the day with love, Fill the day with love, Spend the day
with love, End the day with love.
This is the way to God.
During
the interview Swami materialized nine diamond rings, small golden
statue of Goddess Lakshmi and a watch.
[I received this recent interview
with Russian ladies and thought that you may be interested too.
Love & Sai Ram - Harma]
Source:
http://www.gujarati-online.com/search/regsep02.htm
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www.marie-paule.net.au
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